Not sure where to start? Let's talk for 15 minutes.
No pitch, no pressure — just a quick conversation to figure out the right fit.

Before you commit to anything, let's just talk.

15 minutes. No pitch, no slide deck, no pressure. Just a real conversation about where you actually are with AI — and whether Leadership Lab is even the right next step.

WHY THIS EXISTS

Most people land on this site and have to guess: am I a "For You" person, a "For Your Team" person, or do I just need the free assessment first? That's a real decision, and you shouldn't have to make it alone from a pricing table.

So — before you spend a dollar on anything, spend 15 minutes with me instead.

WHAT WE'LL ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT

  • Where you and your team actually are with AI right now — not where you think you should be

  • What's realistic given your budget, your timeline, and your company's appetite for this kind of thing

  • Whether you're a "start alone" person (1:1 or the cohort) or a "bring the team" person

  • Honestly, whether this is the right fit at all — and if it's not, I'll tell you that too

WHAT THIS ISN'T

  • Not a sales call in disguise — I'm not going to spend 15 minutes building up to a pitch

  • Not a substitute for the workshop — you won't leave with a built AI tool, just clarity on next steps

  • Not going to auto-enroll you in anything — no commitment, no card required

WHO THIS IS FOR

  • You've read the site and still aren't sure which path fits

  • You want to bring this to your company but need to know what to actually ask for first

  • You're comparing this to other options and want a real conversation, not more marketing copy

  • You just have questions that don't fit neatly into an FAQ

WHAT HAPPENS AFTER

If it's a fit, I'll point you to the right path — the free assessment, the cohort, a 1:1, or a team workshop — and you can decide from there, no rush. If it's not a fit, I'll tell you honestly and, if I can, point you somewhere else that might actually help.

FAQ

Is this really free? Yes. No catch, no "free consultation that's actually a sales pitch."

What if I don't know what to ask? That's normal — most people book this call because they don't know what to ask yet. I'll guide the conversation.

Can I bring someone else from my company? Sure, if it's helpful. Just let me know in advance so I can plan for it.

What if I decide it's not for me? Totally fine. You'll leave with clarity either way, which is the actual point.

Still not sure? That's exactly why this call exists.